2026-03-27: 2026-03-27

00:00:00: Speaker 1Welcome to this 3D printing podcast episode. This is a podcast episode in English. So, welcome to the 3D printing podcast, the technology podcast covering all aspects of additive manufacturing. Whether you are new in 3D printing, an experienced user or a 3D printing service provider, manufacturer or accessories supplier. So it’s not just about having a 3D printer, it’s about using it in a Yeah, smart and cost effective way in your business. I am Johannes Lutz and I am excited about today’s episode because it’s titled Better SLS and Multi Jet Printing Nesting and Build Preparation with Amos Pro. So if you are a SLS or Multi Jet Fusion three D printing service provider or a user, end.

00:00:53: Speaker 1Nesting and bid preparation are part of your daily tasks, so listen closely. I am here today with Chris Binon from Amos, and Chris, nice to see you. Please introduce yourself briefly and what does Amos do?

00:01:11: Speaker 2Right, well first of all Johannes thanks for having us here at this podcast. I think it’s a wonderful opportunity to indeed deep dive a bit into, The complexity and importance, also of build preparation in general, nesting specifically. I am Chris Binon, as you said, managing director with AMIS. And AMIS is an internal startup to the Hybrid Software Group. Hybrid Software Group is a larger software group mainly active in, and it’s around 300 people active in software for 2D printing.

00:01:50: Speaker 2And basically, that explains already how how Amos got yeah got started in the first place. I myself come from a three D printing background. I started talking to the T C O of uh Hybrid Software Group, somebody I’ve known for for three decades already. We started basically seeing opportunities to improve things, And because, of course, there is other build preparation software. We’re not the only ones in in the world. Um, and then specifically when it’s about jetting technology, including multi-jet fusion and later on also SLS, There is quite a connection with two D printing because basically it’s sequential two D printing from layer on top of the other. And there was a lot of expertise internally with Hybrid Software Group. I came with my background from three D printing. We saw the opportunities to basically come with a better, easier software tool.

00:02:48: Speaker 2And then, specifically aimed at those technologies, So we’re not catering for all three D printing technologies, but just for those three. And yeah, that’s how we set off about three years ago. Meanwhile, We got a good selling product, and we still have lots of ideas on how to improve that. So, it’s still a small group, and we keep it intentionally small because then we can move fast, we can move forward really focused on the, From the questions, from the demands from our users. So that’s Amos and that’s where we are at this moment.

00:03:24: Speaker 1Very very nice. So let’s start at the front. So, how actually needs nesting and or who actually needs nesting and build preparation in three D printing, and why is it so important? Um.

00:03:39: Speaker 2Yeah, very good question and there is a lot to answer to that one or, Potentially, to answer to that one, I would say everybody who’s in three D printing will need some kind of nesting, will need some kind of build preparation. Whether you are in FDM printer FDM printing or whether you are in laser powder bed fusion for metals, you will need build preparation. And in some cases that’s like mission critical. If you don’t do a good job, uh, you will just have a failed build for sure.

00:04:10: Speaker 2And in other cases, it doesn’t matter too much. It’s like okay, It can be something you would want to do because it improves maybe your cost and your quality a bit. So and typically with these technologies that we’re talking about today, on GFSLS and also jetting a bit in general, it can be really mission critical. It’s really about Getting your products right, getting out the quality that your customer expects you to print. And then, but it’s much more than that. It’s also and that’s maybe not mission critical, but it’s still very important because it allows you to save costs, to have better builds, better quality out which means less parts that break. But just also higher density, meaning you get more profit out of each batch out of each print. So.

00:05:04: Speaker 2In the SLS and MJF range, It really goes from maybe not so important for some parts to very important because you save a lot of money and quality for majority of parts up to mission critical. Because in some cases, you will know that your part will just not come out in the right way. If you didn’t do a good build preparation.

00:05:31: Speaker 1So it’s a bit of all that, let’s say. There’s a lot of situations there, So what are so typical situations where three D printing service providers and in house users working with SLS? And MJF struggle with nesting and build preparation?

00:05:51: Speaker 2Um, I think. In a sense, it’s quite logical that it’s always a bit of a struggle, and it will some things will remain a struggle. Let’s be honest about that because quite often parts themselves just have like like a conflict of interest. Meaning, Yeah, for some parts you would want to say like, and we’ll come to the example later. A threaded round part you will want to put that straight up in order.

00:06:22: Speaker 2To make sure that the uh well that the roundness is maintained, that your threading will will actually work in there. Um, And that may conflict with the requirement for another surface, which you want maybe to be a skew in order to have a certain quality of that flat surface. So there might be a conflict of interest there. And that’s I think that’s also by the way the creativity, that uh a person doing build preparation needs to have. They need to be able to find out, Yeah, or to solve that conflict of interest, let’s say. But nevertheless, in order to get there, In order to get your part positioned in the right way in the right place inside the batch, That can be frustrating indeed, because it’s just taking a lot of time to put your parts in there to rotate your parts in the right direction. And quite often, by the way, we’re talking about hundreds of parts, of course, inside one batch.

00:07:18: Speaker 2So, imagine doing them one by one, and that indeed is frustrating. That’s a struggle to work with that. So, we really try to provide tools to make that go faster and easier. And yeah, just that you go through this whole preparation phase quite a bit quicker, let’s say. And then you come to the nesting. So, okay, you prepared all these parts, you now want to put them in the perfect way inside your batch. You click “nest” and you wait ten, fifteen, twenty minutes or something sometimes even longer and you get a result. And maybe it’s not a result that you actually were expecting or rather.

00:08:03: Speaker 2There, and that’s again because it’s such a complex matter. You have a result, and you see like yes, I am ninety nine percent okay with that. But that part I shouldn’t have done that. I should have put it like that. I should have moved it a bit more there or the results that came out gave me indeed, like, for example, a large flat surface next to the wall of of the build box, something you would want to avoid um you see. So so then you are like, oh. I missed it, And then you have to reposition that part, maybe or change a bit to it, and then you have to re nest again. And again, you are waiting for twenty minutes. So that’s quite frustrating. I think we tried to solve that mainly because of the speed of the nester, which is quite a bit faster than the other solutions that exist. And that means that this iteration, which anyway will bring you to a better result, becomes an option.

00:09:01: Speaker 2You can really iterate through to get to the best result that you think like, yes, This the thing that I want to have printed. And this the thing where I trust as an expert in what I do, that it will come out just fine. So it’s really this focus on taking away these frustrations that we have. On the other hand, yes, it’s a creative job almost so it’s understandable that, Well, maybe the fun is also part in this in this struggle. Yeah, but that that’s what yeah what I would first think about is indeed.

00:09:38: Speaker 1Yeah, a lot of service providers say it’s a never ending story with nesting. So the last thirty minutes before starting the machine, Um a new, a new part is coming in, and they have to do this again and again and again, and that’s uh, That’s frustrating. I know from this target group, yes. So what do you really gain from doing nesting and bird preparation?

00:10:05: Speaker 2Probably apart from saving on your frustration, you mean right? Yeah,

00:10:15: Speaker 2Yeah, Indeed. Well, first of all, and then I think it’s, Yes, you went on when you go through faster and when you nest faster. Of course, you win some time, and that’s very nice because it basically means, of course, that there is less costs to the batch itself. But I think that’s only part of the story. The batch itself is going to be less costly, so to say because there was less time spent in it. But you free yourself because quite a lot of service bureaus, quite a lot of in house printing.

00:10:51: Speaker 2Um, yeah, people who do in house printing. Um, They anyway have limited resources and and they they’re not like with doing twenty people doing the build preparation. So, you want to save that time also in order to be able to focus on other things in your production and maybe scaling up other things automating other things. Uh, perhaps by using a Amis runtime or an automation engine. Um. So, winning time is really vital in many organizations. And it does also mean like yes, You save cost with the winning time. And that itself is a very important thing to focus on. But you don’t only reduce your cost because you save time, You also reduce your cost because you will have less parts that are basically having failed builds or parts that are not.

00:11:46: Speaker 2In In the right quality, um, and also there, yeah, you can put more uh more parts in a job. So if you can put even one percent more density now, One percent more density often makes a difference between ten percent density and eleven percent density. So, that’s a ten percent gain there uh that you get in inside your build. Um yeah that reduces costs significantly. Uh, of course. So that’s that’s also a major driver for. Doing better build prep in general, and the third one is indeed, but I kind of mentioned it already. Quality quality has an impact on your cost, But it also means taking away a lot of frustration because we do see it quite often. I mean, yes, Once in a while, a part comes out and it’s not the quality you want it to be, so you want to reprint. Now the reprint in itself might not be the biggest cost.

00:12:43: Speaker 2But you can’t keep that promise to your customer. Oh, damn! It needs to be in the next batch, so it’s only ready by tomorrow. So the delivery is a day late, and that’s yeah, it goes beyond just the cost of the reprint. I think that’s important. So for me, Those are three very important drivers actually to concentrate on good build preparation : is the cost, it’s the quality, and it’s the time that you spend on it.

00:13:11: Speaker 1At question two, you talked a lot of uh part orientation. So what is? Uh, what is most important when it comes to part orientation? So how would you maybe orientate a bearing block film hinge a threaded bushing flange plate and with a sealing surface? Um so so what can you say about that? Um.

00:13:42: Speaker 2Wow, difficult one. Again, there is a lot to say about it. First of all, there is something like generic nesting rules. And for example, we’re working closely with HP who has also given us their nesting rules, which is basically a set of relatively simple you would say rules. That can be translated into if then else. So, really in a structure that you need to integrate that into software, Meaning like if you have a thin wall and it’s larger than ten square centimeters or one hundred square centimeters or something, then do this or don’t do that things like that. And both in SLS and MGF you have those basic rules.

00:14:35: Speaker 2Of course, and I mentioned it before. Sometimes they are conflicting within one piece, so it’s not always that straightforward. And also, like in the examples here that you mentioned, there are a few special cases. You mentioned the threaded bushing ;, you will put it upright, so you will put it up straight. So that basically the roundness is maintained. And of course, That means that you need to be able to translate that into your build prep software. Also, You need to put a part, and you need to lock it, either lock it in position or indicate that, that part should not be rotated during the nesting. So restrict the rotation axis on that one. That might conflict with the next example you were talking about, the bearing block.

00:15:34: Speaker 2But let’s assume it doesn’t have threaded bushings left and right. Okay, if you have a need a precision fit somewhere, a flat plane that needs to remain as flat as possible, that’s actually the plane you want in the X Y direction. Yeah, so flat down. Let’s say, well, most of the time. Luckily, of course, the threaded bushings will be in the other direction. So you will have a perfect combination there, but that’s not necessarily. Always the case, and also there you are going to restrict the rotation. You will probably for such bearing blocks they can be pretty heavy, So you will probably want to increase the gap distances on the side so that it remains more that it keeps more distance from the parts next to it in order to basically maintain the quality of that part. You also mentioned hinges, right?

00:16:33: Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe a film hinge or something like that.

00:16:36: Speaker 2Yes, well, Good that you because the living hinge is something you would in a different direction from there. Because a normal hinge if it needs to rotate, You want to keep that roundness. And you’re probably going to look at an upside down positioning of the axis bit like the threaded bushings. Whereas a living hinge, Making use of basically the flexibility of that, the powder that the polymer is offering you, that you probably want to put straight down. So in this direction. So you wouldn’t have a notch or potentially having a notch in there. So that will then be the better choice. So you’re going to place it down, lock it in position and/or lock the rotations there.

00:17:25: Speaker 2So that it comes out in in that same way, so another one, Another rule, maybe let’s say that quite important is.

00:17:37: Speaker 1That the flange you need a flange or what what? Sorry, You mean do you mean the flange that as the next part?

00:17:45: Speaker 2Or oh yeah, the uh the the flange plate. Yeah. Well also it’s a bitum. I think I mentioned before the planer, So the one that needs to actually do the ceiling that needs to be really flat. That’s the one you are going to put on top, And you might want to use this increased because also, there might be quite a bulky part, so keep some more distance from the side from from the other parts.

00:18:19: Speaker 2You also, yeah, Should be a bit conservative on the density in that case. So that you don’t basically because parts also have an influence on each other. It’s not like you have one part inside a build box. If other parts are too close, they get an influence on that part. So or they have an influence. So you have to keep some more distance in some cases of heavy parts, let’s say.

00:18:42: Speaker 1Yeah. So that’s a lot of information so, How, can we summarize this completely in a mini decision checklist for nesting to make it a little bit easier? What do you think are the important things in this checklist?

00:19:00: Speaker 2Yeah, Luckily, you warned me on that question, because, of course, there is really too much to say on that. And we could, for example, give these HPMGF nesting rules as an example. Was a five or seven page document, so um. But uh just just to stay brief here, um. I would say, First of all, is the is the function. What what will the part need to do? Um. And then, of course, the the shape might be less important, but the function is important, like uh flat parts that need to be flat really, okay, we’re going to put them up.

00:19:42: Speaker 2The threaded balls, we want them to be round. We may have to make sure that the roundness is not affected, so we’re going to put them upside down. So, function is the first thing you look at. Now of course we also know that in some cases, the function of the part or, the function is maybe not so important but it’s more about how it looks. And, then also you have a couple of rules saying like okay, there is always. Well, There usually is a side of the part that you want the quality to be higher, that it looks very neat on that side. So, that’s then the one you’re going to put up or down depending on on the case and flat again in order to prevent the stepping or yeah, the fact that you still can see the different layers inside. So that’s something to avoid there as well. Mhm mhm.

00:20:34: Speaker 2Another one that you have to keep in mind is the type of material you are printing with. PA twelve, PA eleven they’re a bit different. You are going to want to be a bit more conservative when you print with the PA eleven, keeping some more distance, a bit less density in general inside. And then with the TPU can be also tricky there you, Yeah, definitely. If you have bulkier parts with a thick cross section, you’ll have to be careful. There is a limit even to that. You could say you might then want to put lattices inside to avoid too much buildup of heat and or just shelling them that can also be a solution. So keep in mind which material you’re printing with.

00:21:26: Speaker 2Good, yeah. I did mention briefly before, but it’s a very important one. The center of your build box is where you will want to put the more fragile parts fragile or impactful? Or how do how can I put it generally? Basically, the bigger ones. The bigger parts, you are going to want them in the middle, whether they are a thin, large surface. And there is a lot of drone printing nowadays typically very large surfaces. You will want to put those in the middle, but just as well, the bulky part, the big part. You will you will want to put that in the middle. And actually, that doesn’t have so much to do with the with the printing process itself, but even more with the cooling process afterwards because the outsides will cool.

00:22:14: Speaker 2More quickly, And so all temperature change will have an impact on the stresses inside the part. So that might play an influence when you cool down the parts, and that’s why you want to put in the middle. Um, next one in these general rules is of course your density. I mean, density is super. Super important. I already mentioned the influence of parts next to each other, but in general, the heat buildup definitely so in SLS, of course, where you got the lasers really working in that. The heat input really will have a big influence on your quality. So keep that in mind. So you will need to check your density.

00:23:05: Speaker 2So, You need a tool to a graph, basically showing your density and the possibility to adjust your density. And so we got I think quite a powerful tool to do that. We have the max layer density function, which really allows you to limit the density for each layer to a certain yeah, to a certain density so that you never go too high in layer densities. That’s an important one as well now, I could go much more in detail there because apart from the layer density, You also want to check if if there is not like a lot of density in one corner of your build and then nothing in the other. On the other side. That’s still a bad situation because your layer density might be okay, but your spreading is bad. But also there. There’s quite a few tricks and ways of achieving that in our software, In this Pro so.

00:23:58: Speaker 2Yeah, don’t worry about it. Or rather, you have to worry about it, but there are ways to work around it and to solve that actually.

00:24:07: Speaker 1Yeah, yeah. So to summarize a little bit: function material, put the parts into the center at the cooling density. What was the sixth point? Um, we lost them both, but it’s a lot of information.

00:24:36: Speaker 2Another one that, that could be still important is the yeah, the rotations and maintaining rotations. Because quite often what you will want to do is that if if you once found out that okay, this rotation is perfect for this part, uh quite often in many cases we see that there are reprints in some. Cases, It’s even that the company’s printing eighty percent of what they do is just reprinting of old orders. So you will want to maintain that rotation. That’s not a job for Amos. In a sense ;. It’s not we’re not the ERP or the MES system of your organization, but we do realize that this connection is super important. You need to be able to communicate upstream and downstream.

00:25:25: Speaker 2In your workflow, in order to, for example, Remember the rotation of certain parts and then give that back to the system so that it’s actually stored in there. And with that, We already are very far with the Phasio company providing MES ERP for specifically for additive manufacturing. But, we’re also talking to the other providers in that sense to see how we can better connect and better integrate the two solutions. But to come back to the point. Keep your uh if you’re happy with your rotation, Keep it and and lock it so that it’s uh basically uh always the same.

00:26:02: Speaker 1Let’s say yeah. Yeah, I think it’s a learning process step by step and how to look what is what is looking nice after after after printing and what not and change your recipeum from from part to part. Yeah. So, who has already seen major benefits from using AMIS Pro? So, can you share a practical example?

00:26:30: Speaker 2Yeah, yeah. Well, luckily we already have a few examples that I can’t share them all. Two three names I could mention: it’s three ID in Bel giu m;. It’s a pioneer in MGF technology now. By now they have three, Five thousand six hundred pro series, so that’s good. Nice amount of printers already. T here is rapid prototyping in the Netherlands, and they’re on totally on the SLS side, and they have quite a few SLS printers there, mainly EOS. And a third one I think now about is three D People in the UK also.

00:27:16: Speaker 2Quite a big one of the biggest in the UK providers, so print service providers. And they well we’re still in close communication with them. They’ve really seen the benefits. I mean, really, I think the number one is that they just went down sixty eighty percent in time that they need to do their build preparation. And it’s a lot. In one case, I know for sure like three ID here in Belgium. They’re gaining two hours a day. They used to have two hours and a half per Dalton, Y on build preparation. Now they do it in half an hour, And these two hours I mean, yes, you can imagine the cost, of course, but indeed, as I mentioned before, it allows them to do more to do other things to look at other things. So that’s really a huge difference there, and that’s mainly driven by the fact that our nesting is super fast.

00:28:14: Speaker 2That allows you to change a lot, so there was a lot of build preparation time gains. I think in another case, but I can’t name the customer. But they’re doing only insoles, And we work together with them. Because, of course, if you are only doing insoles, it means that you, if you can put in one hundred and eight insoles inside your batch, instead of one hundred and four with the same quality outcome. That’s just four percent, or nearly four percent more profit. That’s super important, And you can only do that if you and I didn’t mention the word yet, but it’s super important if you have the right nesting strategy. Because your choices in nesting will not only be decided by yeah, the parts themselves well they will be decided by the parts.

00:29:09: Speaker 2But it’s not like okay, I will always use the same way of nesting because I have this machine and this material. No, if your parts are different, you might want to try another strategy. And looking into that really can make a change in your business planning. So. So that was a very good example. I think whereby we didn’t only save on time, but also really I mean increased the bottom line of the company. And that’s yeah, that’s the case. That’s always the case but sometimes it’s more obvious than in other cases.

00:29:36: Speaker 1Yeah, that’s clever nesting. I tried it uh, Myself, your software, and I was clicking on nesting and I was waiting four seconds. Yeah. And it is finished for me. It’s more like okay, is everything wrong here or something like that? No, he’s doing the whole job in this fast way. Yeah. Crazy. Very crazy. This that’s great for, so I can say sixty to eighty percent less build preparation time. I understand this. This a lot t. Here is a lot of time for sitting in front of this computer and click a lot of your desktop to look at the right orientation. So.

00:30:27: Speaker 1So, What does the typical workflow in AMIS Pro look like when you want to nest something?

00:30:38: Speaker 2There is no typical workflow. Well, there is a bit of a workflow, of course. I mean, we typically make it a distinction between part preparation and build preparation. And you start off with a part preparation, So preparing all your parts, so they will lead to a good nesting and to a good build preparation. But that’s just two concepts which will help you going through, I think quite quite quickly. I said there is no typical workflow, but I am mainly saying that because we see that in reality all these.

00:31:18: Speaker 2All these people doing the build preparation for me, they are like a chef, like a chef in a kitchen. And they all have their own recipes. And not only that, The one is a chef of an Italian restaurant, and the other one is in a chef of of a Chinese restaurant. So they’re doing different things with it. And and, In the case of additive manufacturing, you’ve got companies doing only insoles, doing only dental, or doing daily mixes. And that’s a huge difference which requires a different strategy, maybe a different workflow. And. So the job of AMIS is just to be the kitchen to offer the cutlery and the tools. And it’s all close by and easy to use. And, the chef gets to know in the beginning, you have to get to know your kitchen, of course but so.

00:32:08: Speaker 2Yeah, that’s our job in this. We have to be the kitchen, And the kitchen allowing you to be either the Italian chef or the Chinese chef or whatever you have to be for your job. And since you mentioned it before about this speed, yes, You can have the case whereby you have your batch ready and then ten minutes before you want to start printing, somebody calls with a super urgent order, and you still want to put it in and you have to restart. And that’s the case in some of with some of our users, and they need another, they need other tools, and they need the speed and et cetera et cetera. And, then we have other users that say, like first, for example, in the in the first communication we have, they say, like Afro speed is not important. We never print the same day. We always run our nestings overnight, and in the morning we get a result and that we print.

00:33:04: Speaker 2And they don’t change that recipe, so we also have to cater for that possibility. And, it’s just how your company is working or how your company wants to do that. So, a typical workflow, no, but you will in your company probably build your own workflows, build your own strategies still plural. And what we also notice that because they are chef, how to put it, they look at the ingredients and they know how to deal with it. Meaning quite a lot of these guys definitely if they have been working with Amos. Pro for a couple of weeks, They see the parts they have to nest, and they almost don’t have to iterate anymore because they already know, like, okay, with this kind of parts at this division.

00:33:59: Speaker 2I will do my trick one, two, and three, and do my strategy four. And click, and there I go. And it’s done. So that’s how you can also evolve in this typical workflow idea. Okay,

00:34:12: Speaker 1Okay, okay. So, how can a SLS or a multichat fusion user can take a closer look to the software and the speed into his new kitchen?

00:34:27: Speaker 2Right, perfect. Very easy because if you just go to our website, amisprow dot be, you’ll see a button there saying like “download here,” and then you can just have your own download there. It’s an installation; it’s just a couple of minutes. You will get automatically a seven day license by the way. Quite often for companies seriously considering it. They might need more than one week, and we will be glad to extend the license, so don’t worry about that one. And anyway, We strongly suggest to just have a brief demo together to really go through preferably even through your batches or your specific cases, because that really helps. I mean, if I would have given my standard demo to the guy with the insoles.

00:35:19: Speaker 2We wouldn’t have gotten that far, so yeah, But we really think it’s important because otherwise you will not know all the tools in the kitchen. Or we have that also; I mean, They’ve been using Amos Pro for three months and then they call me and ask like Can. We just sit together and have a look at this or that? I am having this trouble.“ And then I just say like Yeah, but there is this shortcut that you just do click click.“ Oh, I didn’t know that. Nobody reads the manual, right? Nobody wants to read a manual; that’s normal. So you can just ask. And, that’s also why we think is this common session just to go through it together is very important. So yeah, glad to work on that for sure.

00:36:05: Speaker 1Yeah, I think it’s the best way to put your own parts into it and ask some questions.: what is the best way? What is easier? How. I s the easiest way to work in this kitchen with all these tools around and make your own experience. So, before the last question, so how will the software evolve? What is next? You say one word: Amis Runtime. What is this? What is in the future?

00:36:34: Speaker 2Yeah, sure.

00:36:37: Speaker 2Well, maybe I do want to tell more about Amos runtime, but more in general, we’re really working okay. It’s very much demand driven for sure, But there we really make a distinction between I would say, feature sets generic value, adding feature sets so bigger than just one feature. That we know, like it’s going to bring a lot of value to our users. For example, A lot of boolean operations that were currently working on to make holes inside the parts, to put on label and text and things like that. So that’s a feature set. The other one is, and I mentioned it before, The HP nesting rules, which well we will put in automated part rotation orientation, automated nesting possibilities, which are if you.

00:37:28: Speaker 2If you have an HP machine based on the HP nesting rules, if they’re not, we are working on of course similar systems for the SLS rules. So that’s also one of these sets. The connectivity is also improving. The connectivity is also there a set upstream and downstream of features that we’re working on. Other way, so that’s one one way of developing things we’re working on. That the other way is really demand driven, Even more closely saying, like okay, we got sometimes new users that say like I really want to run Amos Pro. I am happy with it, but let’s make let’s make a deal that you can have this feature, which is for me for my company, really vital uh that we have it in by September first. And then we say like, okay, no, we agree on that one.

00:38:19: Speaker 2And so, we work a lot with these deadlines, which are then part of the deal. And it’s okay because it brings value for everybody. But for some, it’s more important than for others. So that we put a deadline on it makes kind of sense, let’s say. And then you mentioned it correctly: Amos Runtime is basically the automated Amos Pro, so it’s headless; you don’t have the interface, so to say but, It’s fully scriptable, and we actually before it was a product, we already used it internally for our own testing purposes for testing the software. So it’s basically allowing you to script anything. It’s an API on which you can give all the same commands and even more than you would be able to do in Amos Pro. And there the.

00:39:17: Speaker 2I think, yeah, people who are interested will immediately see the possibilities because it allows you, for example, To say, like first to do an analysis of the parts that you have to nest. And based on that create your own again strategies to say like, okay, oh, I got this type of parts inside. I got six batches to fill with it. Um, okay, Now let’s start dividing the parts over the different batches so that they’re that it makes sense, that it’s logical, not just one after the other. Keeping in mind priorities of of certain kinds of parts so that they’re printed earlier, et cetera. And, then you can start looping, and you can do that day and night and continuously. So new order comes in no problem. It’s just added, and everything is re nested, just instantly according to this set of rules that you decided. Um.

00:40:10: Speaker 2So you can make easily scripts that say that can recognize okay, this a flat part. If it’s a flat part, let’s do this with it. Uh, this a bulky part or let’s do that with it. So you, you see that you can go at once much broader in in possibilities, and it runs automatically. Does that mean the chef wouldn’t have any work anymore? Absolutely not I. I can’t believe that um the chef will still be needed to um like again, like in like in a real restaurant or kitchen to. Check on the result, maybe add a few spices on top, Change a few things before it’s ready to actually go out to go to the printer. So he wouldn’t lose his job; he will just gain time by doing that. So Amos runtime is really and it’s already been installed in UK in one big facility and looking really promising there.

00:41:02: Speaker 2So that’s what’s going on within Amy Cetomo.

00:41:05: Speaker 1That’s very, very nice and great to take a few, yeah, take the right view into the future. So from your point of view, what are the most important takeaways from this episode? How would you summarize them? Well, what are the key points?

00:41:32: Speaker 2First of all, The people doing the build preparation, they’re chefs and they can be considered as such. And I think if you are the boss of the restaurant, You need to give these guys the tools to well come with better products because they are basically making money for your company. They’re really having a big influence on how your company’s quality will be perceived, how the cost will be of each batch, each part. So, yeah, and it’s more than technically. I mean, a good chef is not just technically good; he really adds value. He can have an impact on speed, quality, et cetera. So, I think that’s one very important thing to remember. Secondly is indeed about the strategies and also about maybe once in a while changing your strategy.

00:42:29: Speaker 2I do see some cases whereby people have been using a certain nesting strategy for all the years that they’ve been working with additive manufacturing. And then you come in and you say, like, you start working on batches together. Like, oh yeah, and why do you do this? And why do you that? And just by asking questions, You sometimes come to ideas that say, like, okay, maybe we should change that strategy. And then really strategy can have a big impact again on the final results.

00:42:59: Speaker 2Yeah, and thirdly, of course, use the promotion part. Feel free to contact us and we’ll be glad to look at it together. Of course, that’s my big takeaway. Let’s say,

00:43:11: Speaker 1Yeah. So we have all the information in the show notes for doing that very fast. When you are hearing that to all the listeners. So to the end of the podcast, I have.

00:43:25: Speaker 1For every for every interview, two personal questions. So so please finish this sentence:“ Three D printing is is for me.“

00:43:37: Speaker 2Um, yes, it’s about creating things. It’s it’s but it’s more than that. It’s the yeah the combination of creation and creativity. I think thatum, And and a perfect mix in that, And maybe that’s why the comparison with a chef and with a kitchen is not too weird because it goes beyond just creating parts ;. It’s really the creativity of changing how parts are made, changing how we look at final assemblies or.

00:44:15: Speaker 2Even the functionality or the potential functionality of parts, and that’s that combination of engineering and then creativity, I think is what it is for me.

00:44:25: Speaker 1Okay, okay, Great. Great And. What’s the coolest printed part you ever hold in your hands or in one hand, maybe? Yeah,

00:44:35: Speaker 2One hand.

00:44:35: Speaker 1One hand or two hands? So not a printed building then?

00:44:39: Speaker 2Okay. Yeah.

00:44:43: Speaker 2It’s this. I don’t have to think about it. I thought it was really amazing. It was this eyeball printed by Stratasys, multicolor, which was so extremely realistic. I don’t know if you’ve ever seen it, but it’s really wow! It’s like it could be a dinosaur’s eyeball or something. It’s super realistic and it’s cool because it’s so nice, so extremely well done. But it’s also cool because it’s definitely in the jetting technology, which we’re also very much active with MGF. You see the possibilities if we go one step further, like adding more materials or more binders inside or more colors. Is one thing, But imagine that it’s not just about colors but about different material properties and what you could put inside. Imagine that every.

00:45:42: Speaker 2Artery in that eyeball would be actually electrically, yeah, connecting things or something like that. So, we can still it’s just the beginning, and that eyeball gives a very good idea like of what it could still become in the future. And I think that’s maybe also why.

00:45:59: Speaker 1Yeah, that’s a great part. I think I saw this on Formnext. Or maybe on a picture, But see it on a picture is completely different than see it in real life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we are at the end of the podcast episode. Chris, thank you very much for all this information. That’s that’s a lot, But I think it’s uh it’s very good for all the people they are using. Uh, yeah SLS Multichat Fusion.

00:46:32: Speaker 1Uh, doing the the build prepum more cleverly right now. So we have all the information into the show notes uh your phone number, email address, The link to the website, uh LinkedIn and all the other stuff you have, um and thank you very much for that.

00:46:52: Speaker 2So thank you Johannes it was a nice opportunity. Thank you. See.

00:46:57: Speaker 1You see.

00:46:57: Speaker 2You around.